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Guy Ferdman 00:31

Yo, yo, yo. Hey man, everyone. Hey, man, a woman.


Ilan Ferdman 00:39

Another Hey, whew, man.


Guy Ferdman 00:42

Hey, you, man. So, uh, let's get it off your seat in the face. A topical. That's good to see that for
a while. Yeah. Let's not talk about it. But let's talk about it.


Ilan Ferdman 00:59

Yeah, let's talk about it.


Guy Ferdman 01:01

So let's talk about the Will Smith. Slap heard around the world, I haven't actually gone on social
media at all to see people's opinions on it, mostly because I don't need to. And it's like social
media is fairly predictable. Everyone's on campus, I'm sure there are, oh, my God, you know,
it's the Capitol, if you did that, I'm never gonna consume his content or watch a movie. Again.
I've loved him since independence day. And then there's like people who are like mad, it's not
really a big deal. And then there's such and such, and I don't want to go too much about
opinions. Because whatever your opinion is, you know, that's, that's your opinion, you get to
have the opinion, you get to have your opinion. And I don't want to be righteous about my own
minor, fairly neutral. I'd prefer to kind of look at this from a spiritual perspective. And then like,
why, why is it that when different systems are looking at something like that done publicly?
Why does you know certain experiences come up for certain people the way that they do? And
then, you know, what can we learn about ourselves? So that's kind of the way that I'd want to
explore it. How about yourself?


Ilan Ferdman 02:16

Yeah, I mean, I said, the star group just just moments ago that, you know, the thing that I find
to be quite fascinating about this whole thing, and I have read some people's comments,
because I'm just curious. I will preface this by saying because I think this does Jade, my view.
And I'm clear on that. That I've always been a huge roll Smith fan. And then when I read or
listened to the audio-book, Will, which I first watched best shape of my life, and then into the
book, actually listen to it with my kids and my family. My level of appreciation for the man and
the human that he is, to me, he was always this, like, I called him an alien, because he like, he
just had the perfect life, you know, like, looking from the outside. And I was like, This guy's
crushing life in every which way, shape or form, like, it's just not normal. Like it's not human.
Right. So to me, he was an alien. And then I read the book. And I actually realized, like, how
human, he actually is. The book, he shares, all of it, like his deepest, darkest, never shared
before in the closet secrets with the world. So I just want to preface the conversation that we're
having that that that is my background. And I'm sure that many people have not read that.
Right. So they're going to opine based on what their view of him is. And just like I'm going to
opine about what my view is. But the one thing that I really want to I've noticed, I
recommended that book to so many people that literally the day after I had no idea what
happened on the Oscars, I don't watch and I don't care and I didn't go on social media. So I had
no idea. But I had four different people message me and say, Oh, my God, what what do you
think about what we'll did, and these are people that I recommended the book to so they were
kind of the new my my law firm. The one message I keep seeing over and over and over is that
from people that have read the book, that this man who portrays himself as someone who has
transformed and done a lot of spiritual and personal development work on himself, he along
with Jada, if you've never watched the read table talks, I mean, it's very easy to say that she's
she's done a lot of work. You know, how could he do something like that? And I, I've just
brought myself into the same equation and I said, Listen, I have Done 20 years of personal
development work, which is a lot, Guy and I have invested over a million dollars in our
education and working with mentors and having out of this world experiences, right? I still yell
at my wife, I've still yelled at my children. I still get angry at people that drive slow. I still get
upset with people that offer me shitty customer service, like I'm still human, and the fact that
I've had trans-formative experience, and have made my life a lot better. And I definitely don't
respond in the same way that I used to. It doesn't make me not human. And like, what, just just
just the week before, literally just the week before I was sharing with our clients how I had been
overcome by rage, like legit rage where it felt uncontrollable, like I was on this car ride where
this entity was driving and doing crazy things. And I could, I could only just sit there and watch.
I couldn't. At no point did I have enough control or time to stop it. And I'm watching it. impact
my relationships, and I'm watching it impact everything and everyone around me. And I could
not stop it. So this this happened. I'm literally sharing this with what guy This was last
Thursday, I think I was sharing with the group this this had happened basically from like, the
previous Saturday or Sunday. through Thursday, I literally felt like hijack, like, like an entity had
taken me over. And then I watched this video of basically the same thing happening. But just
on the grandest scale in the most inopportune time to ever let that thing happen. But it
happened, you know, and someone asked me this question, which I'll just leave it with this, and
then I'll let you share. They asked me, Do you feel like that was consistent or inconsistent with
what he shared in the book? And my answer was consistent, very close to 100%. Consistent
and consistent because it happened. Yeah, like Will Smith was one of those people that if you
read the book had the most in sane, extreme experiences in life, like, over and every stage of
the game, like over and over and over and over again, right. And like he responded badly at
times and did all of these things. And I was like, He's a human having a human experience. And
if the book let me see anything, it was that he was allowing us to see into his humanity and the
human experience, that life is not pretty. I mean, like one of the things in the book, I'm getting
chills every time I talk about it, like his son, Jaden. Who had had Karate Kid as like one of his
first movies and was this blockbuster hit and went to China to have this incredible experience.
Right? Like, they decided to make this movie. I think it was called like, I think it was after Earth
after Earth beyond Earth, whatever, whatever, whatever. And it was just him and him and his
dad. Like they were the only ones if it was Wilson its greatest moment Jada and Hamad Lebbon
coaching Jaden this whole time. And the movie flopped flopped so hard, in fact, that after it
flopped, all the criticism came on Jaden. And he got just mangled in the media, because that's
what media loves to do. Right? And he wanted to emancipate from his parents. Like, I don't
know if you guys know what that is. That's basically like divorcing your parents and not wanting
them to be your guardians anymore. Like, I think if you're a parent right now, I can't even think
of anything worse, other than maybe like, I mean, if your child dies, like I think that's probably
the worst but like, what a what a statement about your parenting. It's like, you're such a shitty
parent, that I no longer want you to be my parent, right? Like that happened. And that was just
one of like, a slew of things right? So to me Whatever your opinion is sincere, insincere apology,
not apology, whatever. Like I don't even really want to get into that. But like, as far as
consistency, this man has had a very challenging life. From a very early age, and I don't want
to get too much into the thing, but like, to me, this was the most consistent, because there's
also this part of him that was developed that has made him the superstar than in this moment,
he calls it the general, this part, that in this moment, this gen came out and needed to protect
that, which is his, and this gen came out, and I guarantee you grabbed him by the back of the
neck, dragged them up on the stage, swatted his hand, walked back, yelled at obscenity, and
then there was like a snapping back into reality for him. And I don't give a shit who you are, you
can tell me all of like, how you're righteous and this and that. Every single one of us. Every
single one of us has had that moment where after it was done, you went? What the fuck did I
just do or say? Every single one of us there's not anyone on planet earth that has not had that
moment where you regret it like, instantly after it happened, but it happened. And you could
not stop the train from going down that track. And so for me, I'm just in this place of like, I don't
know what's going to happen. And there's going to be some massive repercussions and some
massive growth and healing opportunities for him, his family, everyone that watched involved,
etc. But like, consistent 1,000,000% consistent. Yeah.


Guy Ferdman 11:36

It's, we live in a weird place where we hold people in the public eye accountable for something
which doesn't even make sense. Like, let's say he had done that at a kid's soccer game. And it
wasn't on camera, but it was reported or wasn't reported. But he just got upset at another
parent for taking a swipe at his kid and they got, you know, blew up and did that. Now granted,
I understand it happened in a very public place. And, and part of me is like, that's kind of
impressive, because I agree with you, it's very consistent with his upbringing, very consistent
with what you know about his father. And we say this all the time, it's like in moments of stress,
anxiety, overwhelm, when a person isn't in that state, you don't rise to your, you know, you
don't rise to the occasion, you basically like fall to your training, right. And his training was like
violence, basically. Right? And, and depending on what that is for you, like for one person that
may have been shutting down and freezing, and for another person, it's like, I'm gonna go and
beat the shit out of this person and protect what's mine, right. And it was a very interesting
thing to watch unravel. But like, I don't feel like anybody gets to hold him specifically
accountable for that it just happened to happen in a very public way. And personally, I think it's
kind of amazing that that happened, because like, how many people do you know in that kind
of environment with like, a billion eyes on them are just gonna like letting go and truly be
human to the nth degree, versus just like burying that deep down inside, which we all know is
not a healthy response, either. The fact that we don't like that somebody's got, you know, that
people don't like that, you know, he didn't take them on the stage and, like, grab his neck and
like, beat him to death. It was like a no, like, this is not appropriate kind of reaction. Again, you
can agree, you can disagree, it is what it is. But what I'd like to kind of retort on this is like, you
know, whatever your judgments are of him or anybody else, right? He's not a politician. He's
not a person making law in our country. He's not a person that because he, you know, it's like,
Oh, what about the children? I don't know, I don't know where kids are watching the Oscars
anyway. And even if they are, it's not like kids in kindergarten are hitting each other. And they
haven't seen that kind of behavior before. So like, as a parent, your job is to like, put things in
context for children. It's not going to be the last time your child sees an angry person, it's
gonna be the last time a child see somebody get hit, right, like, so as a parent, it's kind of like
when you send kids to school, and they like, teach them sex ed and stuff. It's like, because the
parents don't want to, well, it's like, if you're going to give someone that responsibility, and it's
not your responsibility to put things in context for a kid, then like, you get what you get, and
you don't you don't but if you're gonna own up, you know, if you're going to take that
responsibility, then do and secondly, like it look are all our interpersonal judgments, like I'm
biased towards them, as well, like, right, let's say that, like, I think he's also an incredible
human being who's lived an incredible life and let's put things in context. He's probably also
helped 1000s of people like he's employed God knows how many people how many people
have made hundreds of 1000s or, or just a livelihood off of his work, right and his lifetime. And
so to take a man or a woman and boil them down to a second of time in their life, yeah. And
assess something about them that you don't even understand really what happened in that
moment because you don't know what their history is between the two of those guys. You don't
know if before The show he's like, Hey, man, he's like, I'd really appreciate if you'd lay off and
like, say this thing about my wife and Chris Rock was like, fucking I'm gonna do it anyway for a
few chuckles. You don't know, if he had made a comment previously, and they had had some
kind of thing about, like, you don't know, like, nothing is as simple as he just got upset at this
guy in this moment. Like, there could be 30 years of history there for all we know, like, who
knows, right? Like, what's really going on? So, again, I think it is a little bit unjust to take a
human being and we've, you know, in this, quote, unquote, canceled culture that we live in, it's
like, we expect people to be pious, beyond pious and I just want to offer that even the all the
pious men, and specifically men here, the past that were of religious backgrounds, we know for
a fact these people did not do pious things. So it's like your religious leaders, your politicians,
like, clearly, I don't know if you guys remember the last president we had, it's not exactly
known for his integrity, and his up and up, you know, stuff. So like, I think it's kind of ridiculous
to judge somebody. And then like, the really more part is like, where's that judgment coming
from inside of you? Does that make you afraid? When you see that? Are you somebody who
doesn't feel connected to their own fire? And if they were put in that situation wouldn't defend
themselves? Or their honor, or whatever it might be? Or are you also a person like more like,
well, where you would get aggressive with somebody, and you feel the embarrassment of that
moment, because you know, that you would or would not have done that in a public eye, I
actually think it's fucking kind of, like, in a weird way, kind of amazing that somebody in his
stature, with his brand, in his awareness, you know, like global awareness of who he is that
even in that moment with as, like, as the probably the most eyes you're ever going to have on
you at one time, still laid it down and decided to protect his woman above all else, regardless of
what it did for his career, his business, I'm sure he didn't think it all through, because of how
happy like how quickly happened. But that did be a choice of like, I'm gonna let this shit fly
right now.


Ilan Ferdman 17:07

So you know, interestingly enough, and I don't know if you remember this in the book, so I'll go
into a little bit of detail. Hopefully, you know, if you're watching this, or listening to this, and
you don't want to spoiler alert, then, you know, maybe just pause this part. But um, you know,
his whole thing, like the part that's basically been running his life was the coward. Right? He
didn't stand up. Do you remember that story? Like he didn't stand up for his mom getting
beaten by his dad, like, that was his home life, right? And so as this very young kid, he always
had it, that he was a coward. So when someone talks to me about like, spiritually evolved, well,
you know what, like, I'm more than certain, through the spiritual work and personal
development work, like he got in touch with that aspect of himself, and was actually able to
find in not just this moment, but like, in many other moments, courage, courage to stand up for
what is just and true and an honor and like, not repeat that same little boy mistake that he had,
which was basically like that moment, he attributes to everything that he's done in life, like he
became funny, and someone that people paid attention to, because he figured as long as his
dad was laughing, he wasn't hitting, like, just get that. It wasn't a decision that this, I think it
was, like seven made. This is like the ruptures and the traumas and all the things we talk about
with our clients and like we are working through ourselves. So in the moment, in that very
moment, which was again, like a crazy, inopportune time for this to happen. And maybe like in
his human world, like the perfect time for it to happen, right? Well, we will, we will know. But he
found that courage, like he got to stand up to that shadow that has been haunting him his
entire life. And, you know, it wasn't his mom, but it was his queen. And his queen was sitting
right there. And like, whether Chris Rock knew or didn't, is irrelevant, like, I don't know, I, to
me, it's also super wrong to make fun of someone's fucking medical condition like that. And
Chris Rock didn't write that joke, right? Like there's, God knows how many people that write
these things, and blah, blah, blah, like someone, someone should have known that that thing
never should have left someone's mouth, period, end of story and like, so you can look at it
from that perspective, too. But like, to me, it almost felt like in a weird way, I'm not celebrating
or condoning what he did by any stretch of the imagination. Like there was many other ways
that that could have gotten handled like many, right many Many. But to me, it almost felt like
like a victory of sorts for like that personal demon that he's had for so long of like, you know
what, maybe the thing clicked in and was like, and he flashed to someone abusing mom. And it
was like, I'm not standing for it this time, not this fucking time. And it was like a no, a hard
fucking no with a slap.


Guy Ferdman 20:27

So if we get a little turn here, so you know, so what does it teach us about ourselves, right?
Because ultimately, like, if you guys follow our work, you know, we talk a lot about these like
parts and protectors that live inside. And that's why like, once you once you understand parts
and protectors and like how energetic works like, that's all we saw, we saw, we saw parts and
protectors, and like, maybe that was important for everybody to see, right? Like I always say,
even people are creating atrocities on the planet, like their soul had to choose that Hitler,
Trump, Putin, you know, all these leaders that are in these positions, like there's their soul
knew they were going to come and do these things and have to choose into that. And, and the
amount of negativity that that soul knows is going to come at it, right, like those people have to
almost kind of become numb to be put in those roles because of how much energy is thrown at
them every day in every direction. And so like you kind of see why like sociopathic people end
up in, you know, these very, like controlling type of positions in the world. And we don't
understand our spiritual evolution, right? Like that is as critical of a role for someone to play on
this planet. Because of what it says about our own experience of ourselves. Because if it's all
one, even that consciousness gets to come with, right, like that's not left behind, like hit Hitler's
not left behind. We don't get to burn that out of the system. You know, Donald Trump does not
get left behind. Will Smith is not left behind. So like, if a soul is going to do something that
public that's so many people interact with it energetically, like wow, like, holy shit. That's a
That's a powerful soul to take that on. And so for me, I kind of look at it from there. And I'm like,
Oh, that's interesting, that part and protector, that it's like, okay, what is this in me because I
feel like, I feel kind of neutral about it. I'm both like, ah, could have been handled better. Like
Elon said, at the same time. Like, I get it. Like, that's a human being a human. And there's a
part of me that's like, I'm kind of proud that a human in that situation allowed themselves to be
that human. Because it's really, really easy to cover it up. It's smile and look kind of like what
he said during his speeches. Like, we're expected to take abuse and smile. Like that's, that's
the position we're in all the time. And that was his most of his life, by the way, right? So, you
know, like, I play games, like I play the What's that game called The getting out of the rat race,
the Robert Kiyosaki game over here on my phone, I just forget what's called for some reason,
the cash flow game. And like, and like other games, he plays tennis, right? And like athletes do
this, too. It's like, tennis is a spiritual game. There's even a book right? Like, What's the book
about playing tennis, the inner game, kind of write the inner game of tennis, but you can, you
know, put a blank at the end and kind of fill it in with just about everything, the inner game of
chess or anything else, like, what it's really teaching us about yourself? How is it that you
respond to stressful and anxious situations, and then you can actually see these automated
parts inside of you and decide either to learn how to do something to heal those parts or not?
Like, I will give it up to him. He's He's dedicated his life to learning about that. And he's gotten
to a place in his life where protecting women, which is really you could see from his earliest
trauma is like the most important thing to him, which by the way I aligned with, because it's
how I felt about my mom, for certain things. I won't go into details why, but like, I feel
extremely protective of women and always actually felt rather unsafe around men, like I hated
locker rooms, and like listening to all that, you know, shenanigans and talk that happened
between between men about women for that exact reason, because it's like, it made me feel
like the women weren't being held and, and safety. And so like, what it really says, you know,
your judgment, what it really says about you is either a part that you have disowned within
yourself, right, they that you don't like to look at. And when you see that publicly being
displayed, every person we look out there is just a representation of what a human being can
be No, and a representation of what we can be. However, in our trauma, there's, we either take
things as a mantle, and we say, hey, I want you know, I'm going to continue to do that. There's
things that are completely out of our fucking control. Like we're just, we're an angry mess,
every time something happens, like I've certainly dealt with that in my life you'll and has to, or
it's or it's a disowned part of ourselves. If it's disowned. You are going to harshly react to that.
It's a reason like, so many religious types react so harshly to gay people, right? And have that
like, kind of fragility in their system about that. And then oftentimes, the ones that are actually
gay, even have the harshest response about it, because they're that and they were taught that
that's like a bismal to be that way and so there's this disowned part in their system. Um, and
that's that that's just facts. I'm not even, you know, this is not spirituality. So like, to me, it's
like, okay, cool. So like when we see something off go off like that there. First of all way more
important things in the world happening that require our attention than what Will Smith did on
stage for one second of his life. And if you really care enough to look and care enough about
your spiritual evolution, then instead of projecting what you think, Will Smith should have done,
look inside, and think about yourself in that situation or response or how that makes you feel in
your body, and get really intimate with that. And if you're curious about practices about how to
relieve yourself of that, so you can metabolize that energy, and be free of either your own
trauma or automated responses. That's really what we do here as a company with Satori prime.
And moments like these to me are not to be like, Ah, it's like, whoa, okay, interesting. Let me
let me turn and look within, project my beliefs outside and try to convince everybody about,
you know, how the way the world should be and what they should think and how to cultivate it.
And this and that the other it's like, really, the only thing that matters is what are you learning
from this internally?


Ilan Ferdman 26:09

Yeah, I really, really love that. And like, if you don't know what guys pointing to, we have a
meditation. So if you're not in our Facebook group, definitely jump into our Facebook group,
you can do that by going to join old souls.com. And it'll give you the invite on you can ask to be
part of that group. And then when you get in there, just request from our team just say, Hey,
listen to the podcast, we'd like the meditation. And it's called a healing meditation. And what
we have learned is that your body has remembered literally, everything that has ever
happened to you, right? Like it can't lie, and it doesn't forget. So that's wonderful. And also, you
know, the one of the issues that we keep going in habits and loops over and over and over. The
other thing is that the body doesn't know the difference between something happening, like in
real time, and something that you are just visualizing in your mind's eye. So for example, if you
think right now, of someone that you deeply, deeply love, and like just put that person in your
mind's eye, right now, just visualize them, visualize yourself, hugging them, holding them. And
then just put your awareness on your heart. And just notice, as you visualize this person that
you deeply, deeply love, like, you're going to start to feel that your heart is going to start to
open and you're going to start to feel warmth, and connection. And this feeling of love is going
to start to permeate through every cell of your body. Okay, now, flip it for a second. And think
of a situation or a person that you really dislike at this moment, or something that you just
want changed. And keep your awareness on your heart, and you will notice how quickly your
heart closes off. Right, it's like a, like a self protection mechanism. It's like gonna close onto
itself. And it's doing that without you telling it what to do. Right? It is just doing that, because
you're bringing this visual into your mind's eye now, this is impacting your day to day life
moment by moment by moment, whether you're aware that it is or not, is irrelevant. Right?
Like you're not sitting there going, Oh, I love this person. All right heart. Why don't you open
making me feel all these love you Good? No, it just like that's what the body does. And when
you're angry or frustrated, or want something different, like your body just kind of torts and
contracts itself. Now, this happens in our hearts, this happens in our throats. This happens in
our solar plexus or in our stomach, or like, basically all around this, this center channel. So one
guy saying that if you want to find out how you can create healing from this specific event,
maybe you grew up in a household where violence was very present. And as you witness that,
right, your body is going to reignite that aspect inside of you that deep, deep terror. And by the
way, if you feel that deep, deep terror, it means that it's alive and present in your life, not just
in this moment, always in your life. In fact, you have constructed an entire life around not
feeling that but the only way out is through right like the only way out is in so you can use this
moment and visualize that. Visualize it with a state of awareness like find safety in your room.
You know, find that place in your house or in your couch and visualize that scenario, and then
just with awareness, and I highly recommend this meditation. Watch what is clamping down in
your system? Where is that part that constricts? As you watch something like that? What is the
emotion that arises inside of you? From witnessing something like that, that can give you
massive healing, if you're actually going to do that work. So this might sound like, oh, how do I
do that, but a lot. That's why I'm saying like, go get the meditation that the front part of the
meditation like the first six or so minutes, guy basically describes really well like what the
process is to watch and notice and what to do, etc, etc. And then after you do that a few times,
you'll kind of know the process. And it's a process that we still use every single day, to witness
what is happening inside and allow for that healing to happen. And Will Smith, if you're out
there listening. And you want to sit with someone and do that work, then we are here.


Guy Ferdman 31:24

Yeah, and I would say it's less of a process and more of a quality of awareness. I think for most
people who've never actually got trained how to find certain qualities in their awareness, of
course, the mind thinks is like, Oh, well, I got to do step one, and step two, and step three. And
so we, we teach it in a structural way. Because it's helpful for that level of mind. But once you
exit that level of mind and go into a higher state of consciousness, which is, I always say, it's
really not as hard as it may seem like you don't have to do these really intense exercises to get
into higher states of consciousness, it really is just a matter of pointing to and finding this
quality of awareness, then you're like, Oh, that's my awareness, you're like, yeah, that's your
awareness. This is your attention. This is not your awareness. There's because awareness can
be aware of your mind and your conditioning, and the thoughts and sensations and all
this kind of stuff. So it's, a different, higher frequency of mind, if you want to think of it
that way. And from that place, you know, like Milad was saying here, he's like, you know, he
has a horrible feeling about his personal illness. And you know, and every time he reads
anything about the symptoms, he gets this feeling of, of horror in his body. And this creates a
bio physical response, you know, like, a few weeks ago, and this will kind of start wrapping it up
here, he lectured me on to peptides for a few injuries I had in my body and you, you inject
these peptides into your body. Now, I don't know about you. And I don't know too many people
that enjoy needles, but like, I can go get an IV. And I don't like to look as they put it in and stuff
like that. Now, Ilan was injecting me in the first like, few days, like I almost passed out of every
single injection, we're doing three injections twice a day, and I almost passed out every single
injection. Now the needle hadn't even gotten in, can't see the needle, and there's not that
much pain being caused by the needle going in. But, just like many of us, right, when
you had some sort of trauma, around needles going in discomfort, it's an invasion of our
system, like, it makes sense that we would have this response to it, but it's like, you got to get
like the mind is creating that your awareness is creating that there's not actually that nothing
that bad happening to your body, right? Two weeks later, I'm like a, like a pineapple, I can like
throw that thing. And we do dinner, right? You just you just get you just get used to it. Because
the body realizes that this is not, it's not a matter of a lack of safety. And so like, if a needle
going into your arm can stop having that biochemical response. It's not the needle, it's the
expectation that the body is creating. So, you know, we're so used to just looking at what really
hurts, my head hurts, my knee hurts, right? Again, these like big gross sensations is what we've
been trained to look at. And you got to get whether there's something subtle in your awareness
and in your body, like a trauma that's just hanging out in there. It's, it's just as impactful as if
something big is happening. It's just happening in these micro moments of your life. When
you're not paying attention. Why am I making this decision? Why am I grabbing that drink? Why
am I getting angry over here? We don't look at that we look at the symptoms, we don't look at
the source. And again, medical sciences set up this way psychology is set up this way. It's like,
hey, let's treat the symptom. Let's treat the symptoms. It's like but there's a source underneath
that symptom. And that's what awareness can get. And that's what when we go through any
event, whether it's war COVID, or we'll Smilla it's funny to say that's something we're going
through but okay, something people are globally aware of, you know, for the most part that's
the opportunity is to take something that's subtle and bring a lot of awareness to it and go right
to the source of that and when that is cleaned up when that metabolizes from your system
When big things happen, you will find yourself in a much more beautiful state of neutrality and
well being and pleasure because you can just view it without all the judgment that comes from
it, which is really just an internal judgment of yourself. It's never really a judgment of what we
see outside of ourselves. That's just what we that's why we pin it on because that's what we've
been again trained to do. We don't have many people trained in looking in when things are
going on, and they're uncomfortable. We have a society of hate, let's look outside, and how do
we change what's happening outside of ourselves to make ourselves feel more comfortable
inside. And that's why most people are more comfortable when the needles not in the when the
needles in, right because they're just focused on the external. But if you would turn within
you would see that there's a trauma, right, a subtle trauma that is now being expanded as the
needle comes closer, and that's what's really creating the symptomatic there so just wanted
to pop that in there.


Ilan Ferdman 35:52

Alright guys, that's our take. We will probably never talk about this again. But just want to give
you guys our little take because many people have asked us and hopefully this, this brings up a
new view for you. Yes.


Guy Ferdman 36:05

We don't talk about brewing.


Ilan Ferdman 36:07

Oh,no, don't talk about Will Smith. No, no, no.


Guy Ferdman 36:11

All right. Love y'all. See, y'all. Bye bye.